ALLAH vs. YAHWEH

I wrote this for those who do not follow all of the comments on this Blog. I attempt to answer most of the comments of any reader, so I have already written about this, but not all read the comments and I thought it important enough to post.

It is said by many that Yahweh and Allah are the same God. Both books that explain Islam and Christianity are available on the Web so let us examine them and determine for ourselves if they are the same God.

Both books claim their God does not change.

The Koran, (The Originator 35.43) (In) behaving proudly in the land and in planning evil; and the evil plans shall not beset any save the authors of it. Then should they wait for aught except the way of the former people? For you shall not find any alteration in the course of Allah; and you shall not find any change in the course of Allah

(The Victory 48.23) Such has been the course of Allah that has indeed run before, and you shall not find a change in Allah’s course

(Quaf 50.29) My word shall not be changed, nor am I in the least unjust to the servants.

The Bible, (Num 23:19 NIV) God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    (Mal 3:6 NIV)  “I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.                                                                                                                                    (James 1:17 NIV)  Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.

So if either book disagrees with the other then they can not be the same God, for that would be change.

The most important thing in the Bible is that God had a Son and that Son was crucified for our salvation. (I will not list every verse in the Bible or Koran that supports my points, because both books claim God does not change, therefore it is not necessary to list every verse)

(Mat 3:17 NIV) And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”                                                                                                                (Mat 28:5 NIV) The angel said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified.

So what does the Koran say about God having a Son and that person being crucified?

(The Women 4.171) O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.

(4.157) And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the apostle of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.

You can see by the text of the two books they do not agree, and not only disagree, but disagree with the very basic and the most important subject matter of the Bible.

The Bible says Jesus is the Messiah, (John 4:25&26 NIV) “The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.” Then Jesus declared, “I who speak to you am he.””.

The Koran also lists a Messiah, (The Family of Imran 3.45) “When the angels said: O Marium, surely Allah gives you good news with a Word from Him (of one) whose name is the ‘. Messiah, Isa son of Marium, worthy of regard in this world and the hereafter and of those who are made near (to Allah).”

Of course the Koran does not name Jesus, but calls the Messiah “Isa”, probably because Jesus means “God saves”. The word Messiah means “A leader who is regarded as or professes to be a savior or liberator”. The Messiah in the Koran saves no one.

It should be easy to understand that God would not command anyone to kill another over religion. No one knows what is in another’s heart (mind) and no man knows the future, so even if the other person does not believe in God now, he may turn to God later. God made everyone and God knows if that person will turn to Him, if you slay someone you have sealed their fate and prevented that person’s later salvation. But the Koran commands its followers to kill.

The Koran (The Women 4.89) “They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.”

If you do not know what is in another’s heart and you do not know what someone will do in the future, then you are not qualified to judge that person and if you are not qualified to judge then you are not qualified to kill. Remember they have a lifetime to learn about God, and they may turn to your way; unless you end their time prematurely. God does know what is in each man’s heart and God also knows the future, so God alone is qualified to judge. Does no one realize that to kill someone is usurping God’s rights and altering God’s plan? If God wanted someone dead then dead they would be: He needs no help. Make no mistake; God would not command someone to judge another. The Judge is the one that pronounces the sentence and that should be God. We are only the jury that determines guilt. If we examine ourselves, in truth, we can see that we are all guilty and without a Savior we are all condemned.

Both books proclaim that in order to live with God after judgment one must believe in God. So what does it mean “believe in God”? Well, as I understand it means “Believe in the true God”. The God that is Love wants everyone to love everyone else. By that I mean only to “do to others as you would have them do to you”. If everyone would adhere to this simple rule there would be world peace. No one would kill his neighbor because his neighbor did not understand as he does.

The true God always adheres to His own rules. He has told us to “do to others as you would have them do to you” and that is what He also does. No one wants someone else to make them do anything. Anything that we do should be because we want to do it. God does not make anyone turn to Him. He has explained Himself to us through the Bible and He has explained to us what He wants us to do, but the choice is a personal choice. Make the right choice and live with God forever, or make the wrong choice and live forever without God.

God made us for a purpose and that purpose is so that He can have someone to love. After this age is over He wants to live forever with those that love Him in return. No one wants to live forever with their enemies and God is no exception. If you destroy what God made by killing others, you are the enemy of God and He will throw His enemies out of Heaven and anywhere without God is Hell.

One book is a counterfeit and the other genuine. The definition of counterfeit is – Made in imitation of what is genuine with the intent to defraud. Can one make a counterfeit before the genuine? Which book was written first?

Islam is a mixture of religion, government, and law. If everyone obeyed the second royal law of the Christian religion there would be no need of government or law.

2 Responses to ALLAH vs. YAHWEH

  1. There are sooo many faulty premise’s here I do not know where to begin. Bet let’s start with the one that cracks your whole premise in a nut shell.

    The main problem here is that you are starting out with a presupposition. You starting stance is that the bible is correct. You can not prove this and with nothing to back up the validity of the bible, you CANNOT assert it’s truthfulness. How do you know the Quaran is not true and the bible incorrect? Before you go to time frame, we tweak our understanding of the world through new available information. It either confirms/tweaks or negates the original viewpoint. How do you know that this is not the case between the bible and the quaran?

    Wait a second! If god knows the future, then how can anything we do usurp gods plan? Did not an omniscient being make plans for these eventualities?

    I think you are just cherry picking what you want? The bible consists of the old testament as well. Remember, you god is unchanging. He is NOT a loving god. He spreads a doctrin disease, murder, rape, genocide, infanticide and misery.

    <Of course the Koran does not name Jesus, but calls the Messiah “Isa”, probably because Jesus means “God saves”. The word Messiah means “A leader who is regarded as or professes to be a savior or liberator”. The Messiah in the Koran saves no one..

    Keep studying and perhaps you will not make so many errors.

    1. Isa is the name for Jesus (Yeshua) in arabic
    2. Messiah actually means anointed one. I don't know where you got your definition from. The reason for this is because the prophecy was that the Messiah (anointed one) would also be a priest. Since all priests are anointed with oil they are all technically messiahs.

    You whole blog smacks of errors and arrogance. You have not done any scholarly work but instead come from an angle of judgements, presuppositions and guess work.

  2. astudent says:

    stewpidmonkey,

    stewpidmonkey! Well that pretty much says it! What more could I add?

    Except in English, we spell it stupid, not stewpid, but I do not know Monkey: not even Stewpidmonkey; I suppose that is a dialect of Monkey, but I do not really care.

    I use to comment with atheists, but I have realized they are all stewpidmonkey boys and it was a big waste of my time.

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