I HATE MONEY!

That is not natural. I know because I was once only a natural man. I did what natural men do and the love of money is natural. Money has the power to grant worldly wishes and desires. So I had a love of money.

Let me explain how I got this way. Let me warn you though because if and when you understand how I got this way, you will also begin to hate money.

If you read only a little of what I write you know that I read and attempt to understand the Bible. I don’t just read it. I doubt it! If one doesn’t doubt then one doesn’t give God the opportunity to explain. He will not hate you for doubting any more than He hated Gideon or Thomas.

God wants truth and there is no truth in just reading and believing. I found that I could not really just read and believe. I had to question everything so that I could truthfully say that I believed it. I had to ask God to explain and He has always done so: usually not as fast as I wanted, but then I am not in charge.

I read Matthew 6:24 (NIV) “No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.” And when I began to think about the verse a little voice, way back, deep in my mind, asked “Astudent, do you hate money?” and my truthful answer was “Well, no, I don’t hate money. Then that same small voice said, “Well, you better learn to”.

That made sense to me, because I know which Master I wanted to love, so that would dictate which one I must hate. There was no third choice. Only love God and hate money, or love money and hate God.

Now, I have to point out that there are degrees of love and hate. After one or two dates with the perfect mate you do not love him or her with the same passion as when you ask or accept a wedding proposal. I did not hate money with a great passion at first.

The more I think about money the stronger my hate becomes. At first I only viewed money from a selfish prospective. I thought of everything that money could do for me as good things, but then I thought that if money was the best thing for me then God would have already made me rich. It was His call as to how rich a family that I would be born into and I was not born into a wealthy family. I know that He only does what is good for me, so I know it was and is a blessing not to be rich. After thinking a little more on it, I know that much money (the other master) would have led me away from Him.

I began to think of money as the Bible portrays it, as another master and a master that opposes God. When I began to view it from that angle or from God’s prospective, I see the evil that has been, is, and will be caused by it. And then I began to hate money for what it has done to man.

Money is only a tool. That is something that I have understood for a long time because I operated my own business. You have to have money to stock your shelves and pay the help. Also to pay all of the taxes that the government can invent which of course is impossible, because they take what is demanded and hire another employee to sit in the corner of an office and invent another tax! Well, first they invent another reason for a tax!

Anyway, after some thought I realized that it is Satan’s best tool and all of the problems that men face today is the result of money. If the government speaks of solving a problem it is always with money. If we speak of solving a problem it is the same. Money is a false master and is not going to solve any problems: only make them worse.

Money has power and there is no power without it. The funny thing about money is it demands faith in itself, just as God demands faith. If everyone lost confidence in money it would cease to exist. That is what is happening to the dollar. The world is losing confidence in it and it is losing value. If the world would completely loose confidence in the dollar it would cease to exist.

If everyone lost confidence in the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, He would not cease to exist. Which is the true Master?

Now that I have learned to hate money it really bothers me when money is defended or spoken of and not condemned in church.

If you do not hate money, then I would give you the same advice that the small voice in my mind gave me “Well, you better learn to”.

15 Responses to I HATE MONEY!

  1. PAGAU says:

    astudent said:
    “a little voice, way back, deep in my mind, asked “Astudent, do you hate money?” and my truthful answer was “Well, no, I don’t hate money.” Then that same small voice said, “Well, you better learn to.””

    PAGAU says:
    I agree with this one hundred percent. In fact, I agree with everything you have written in this post. But as I have said to you before, I agree for reasons you have probably not heard of.

    This is the same thing I said the last time you posted on this subject:
    IS MONEY THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL?
    https://astudent.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/is-money-the-root-of-all-evil/

    In that post you asked the question:
    Is money the root of all evil? My answer was “Good question. Glad you asked. I agree with you… but for reasons you have probably not heard of.”
    What I said then still stands today and bears witness with the still small voice who said to you: “Well, you’d better learn to.”

    It is too bad the church of today does not see it coming. The coming tyranny to face the end-time church will depend on money to function. The path to escape the tyranny leads to some form of self sustenance and independent living. The coming tyranny will be characterized by interdependence on others through money. For example, your source of food will be the grocery store. The source of food will be a monopoly held by commercial and industrial producers and the consumers of food will be you. You will be forced to use money to obtain food. The end time church will face a strong incentive to receive the mark–or die hungry. Those who understand the times will be forced to live “off the grid” as all commerce will be controlled through money.

    Those who seek to control the issuance of money have this goal in mind–control of commerce. Those who wait until that time to understand this [what your still small voice said: “Well, you’d better learn to”] will have a hard time accepting it. It is better to understand now. You don’t need money. The first place to start living without money is to simply start a garden in your back yard.

    Western society needs money to function. Agrarian societies can function just fine without all of the interdependencies that require money. Family based farms can likewise exist just fine without all of the interdependencies that require money. Modern civilization regards all those outdated modes of living as barbaric. We are above all that today. This is the great society. But we (the church included) do not understand the tyranny that we so willing invite into our homes. We are forging our own bonds. Why must the church be the last to understand this? There are many others who can see it clearly. As one example I want to share an article that speaks on this subject although money itself is not the main subject. It is about breaking the cycle of dependency or perhaps better stated reversing the trends toward interdependency. It means converting a world of “consumers” in to a world of “producers.”

    Recommended reading:
    Self-Sufficiency: Universal Solution to the Globalist Problem – The Globalists’ Worst Nightmare:
    http://www.activistpost.com/2011/03/self-sufficiency-universal-solution-to.html#more

    Later…
    PAGAU

  2. Selvin says:

    We just live this temporary life with some money for comfort.. It’s all needed and I agree too.. But its not the whole life where we live to succeed an eternal joy for which money is useles.. JESUS tells us, we will not get out until we have paid the last penny. Luke 12:59
    So, let’s all pay till the last penny and get out of this Earth’s fake, join God for eternity..

  3. astudent says:

    PAGAU,

    It is good to hear from you.

    We do indeed agree, as I also agree with you. However, I do not know what reasons that you say that I have probably not heard of. That is not to say there are none. It only makes sense that if I have not heard of them then I would not know of them. Ha

    You are correct the Church of today does not see it coming. Actually, it has come and the Church does not know it is here.

    When you say church, do you mean the Church or God’s people, which are the Church? The Church already depends on money to function and so do God’s people!

    You said, “The coming tyranny will be characterized by interdependence on others through money. For example, your source of food will be the grocery store. The source of food will be a monopoly held by commercial and industrial producers and the consumers of food will be you. You will be forced to use money to obtain food. The end time church will face a strong incentive to receive the mark–or die hungry”, but that is true in today’s world.

    It seems to me that you believe that we can avoid the coming wrath by learning to live “off the grid”. Well, I have considered that possibility myself. You say, “You don’t need money” and that is the key statement that I could not find a way around. The sad truth is that we do need money.

    I considered how I could grow my own food, but in a real meltdown of civilization those who have no food would steal mine while I slept. One must sleep. I thought that if I could find another to agree and work with me that we could overcome those who would steal our crops, but two could not stop a crowed. So I thought that if I could find many that would work with us then we could protect ourselves, but then I realized I had just reinvented society and that is what I was trying to protect myself from! It didn’t work the first time and there would be no basic change in the people that would make up the new society, so my plan would not work.

    As for today, one needs a place to live. If it only an empty field there are property taxes to be paid and it takes money to pay taxes. It will not change. It will only get worse. The rulers of this world will only raise taxes. They never lower them. Well perhaps they would if they thought it would make it easier to raise them even higher.

    You are indeed correct when you say, “Western society needs money to function.”

    The Bible says that we can pick up snakes and drink deadly poison and it will not hurt us at all. Money is a deadly poison. More deadly that arsenic, because it is a spiritual poison. But thank God that it will not hurt us at all.

    We do not disagree. We are just viewing money from slightly different angles and it only seems as if we do not agree.

  4. astudent says:

    Selvin,

    I agree with most of your comment.

    The verse that you cite (Luke 12:59) is where Jesus is speaking to hypocrites and we are not hypocrites. Truth is no one can pay till the last penny, because God owns everything, so it is not our money. I cannot buy something from someone with their own money.

    We do not have to buy anything. Our debt has been forgiven.

    Yes, I know that you already understood that, but I just had to say it for those who might not understand.

  5. Graham says:

    That “root of all evil” scripture is the most oft misquoted. It actually says “Money is A root of all KINDS of evil.” Money is just a trading tool. Easier to use than clams or cows. There’s actually a new book out with this same title: http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/i-hate-money-understanding-your-financial-attitude/15392492

  6. astudent says:

    Graham,

    That depends on which translation your quote is from. (1Ti 6:10 KJV) “For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.” The word used is “the” instead of “a” and the word “kind” is not in Strong’s.

    We both agree that money is a tool, but it is not from God. It is a master that opposes Him.

    Theft is aided when property can be converted to money. If there was no such thing as money a thief would only steal one cow at a time, but when the cow can be converted to money and the wealth can be spent on anything, the thief steals everything.

    It just could be that because we want wealth, we are quick to defend money.

  7. reply says:

    first of all: hate is a very unchristian feeling. you shall not hate but love. you cant take m:6,24 word by word, how should that work with m:6,25/28. its more a way of saying: dont be greedy and carry to far.

    secondly, as you noticed: money is a mean, never the destiny or even a master. its all about incentives and the nature of man. money isnt intrinsically bad. your not forced to consume that much, its all about yourself and selfcontrol. to serve sth is very different from using sth.

    and finall a comment on pagau: no economy anywhere never ever worked without money, at all. there is no such thing as a barther economy. even then something (might be gold) starts to become money. tell me how it works in your opinion. you can argue about interests, that is indeed state of the art, but not money itself.

    there are some mistakes made by some commenters. grocery stores dont act as a monopoly, that leads to wrong conclusions. what you criticize is specialization and division of labour. just try to do everything on your own. show me how you grow your own potatoes and pigs, or scew your own pc together to comment on this blog. – let alone your internet access.

    btw selvin: youve gotta be kiddin me, dont you? to cite luke 12,59! have you checked the context?!

    cows bts can be converted into everything else as well. what you didnt realized is, that everything can become money – with a few requirements like durability. hence, milk wouldnt become money. hence, money is just natural, because it is the simplification of trade and the minimisation of the amout of co-occurring and redundant prices (how much bread is a cow and for how much bread do i get a door and how much door i have to give to get a cow). it also makes price adjustments and control easier. how to i know whether the price of the cow is appropriate if he wants 200 kilo bread? may it would be cheaper for me first to barter with the milkman because he wants less in terms of milk than in bread? and how does the cowboy knows this itself? how do i know if the doctor worked hard enough that he deserves all the food the community serves him with – in comparison to the farmer? that are all problems solved by money and money developes naturally. period.

  8. astudent says:

    reply,

    At the risk of repeating myself.
    You do not understand the Bible, because you do not believe it. God does not waste His time on someone who does not even believe He exists. The Bible contains everything that He wanted to say to believers and that is why other books are not included, but it is not possible for unbelievers to understand (Matthew Chapter 13) (But you will not understand and God is proved right).

    I have tried to explain God’s Word to unbelievers and in doing so, I proved Matthew, chapter thirteen. It makes no one happy and it just wasted the time of both of us.

    I have no desire to repeat the fiasco. If you believed God’s word you would understand pagau and selvin, but even better than that, you would understand God.

  9. reply says:

    i didnt write i dont believe in god, thats not fair! in my opinion its just a different way to interpret the bible. i, for myslf, dont take the translated bible too literally and empirical findings into account.
    if you take the bible seriously, then you have to read the original one and try to be as close as possible to the original word, as i do. dont you agree? the english bible is “just” a translation. hence, it is not gods word itself but a translation by man. thing is, with translation mistakes emerge because transferring the holy word into another language must go on the costs of meaning. so if you would only try to reads gods own words, you would see that what they give us to read is not what he wanted us to know. i belive he wants us to read the original word. thats all i was trying to say with my other post.

    but thank you for your kind reply. if you dont wish to discuss this topic any further i will sadly accept that.

  10. reply says:

    the only thing i was struggeling with is… how do “false” believers, like muslims, have the chance do understand god and find back to god if they dont understand because they dont believe?

  11. reply says:

    one last thing (sorry for splitting my comment in small pieces): have a look on matthew:25,14-30

  12. astudent says:

    reply,

    This is a reply to reply, whom I said I was not going to reply to. Hummmm

    If you are someone other than “reply” and are following comments, reply commented on my post “Jesus “Is” the son of David 3” and that is why I do not think of him as a believer. At least not a believer in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

    Well, it is true that you did not say that you do not believe in God. So, let me explain why it seemed to me that you do not. But first let me say that there are not different ways to interpret the Bible. The Bible is, and must be perfectly true, or it can not be the Word of God. That phrase (It’s just a different way to interpret the Bible) is used when two disagree on the meaning of part of the Word and the one who does not understand clearly, or rightly, stops trying to understand and needs a way to save face. So he or she says they have a different way of interpreting the Word. Pride has ended many Bible studies.

    You said, “please note that maria wasnt really a virgin but a young woman. its simply a translation error of the word almah (hebrew) to parthenos (greek).” But almah was not the only word in Hebrew that is used to denote a virgin. Bethuwlah was also used and both can mean either a virgin or a young woman: just as the Greek word parthenous also can mean either. One has to consider the context and the rest of the Bible to understand that God meant a virgin.

    Consider Mary’s question to the angel Gabriel (Luke 1:34 NIV) “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” and if you think she did not mean that she was a virgin then consider the KJV (Luke 1:34 KJV) Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?

    Then consider the words of Gabriel as he explained what was to happen. (Luke 1:35 NIV) The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God” He did not say that she was not a virgin, or that she would have sex with someone in order to become pregnant.

    The word parthenous is used other places to identify virgins in the New Testament (1 Cor 7:28, 34, 36, 37 &38. and also 2 Cor 11:2.) Consider all of Scripture, before believing it was an error in translation. Is it not clear that God watches over His Word and that He will not let error of the Word itself continue?

    It is essential to understand that Mary was a virgin. Jesus is the only son born of God. Everyone else is born of dirt. Everyone, except Jesus, if they trace their linage all the way back as far as they can, will find Adam; and Adam was made from dirt. Both you and I are of this world, made of dirt, but Jesus came directly from the Father. The mother of a son born through God would have to be as pure as possible, a virgin. At least that seems right to me.

    You believe that reading a religious text in the original language is the only way to understand, but most words in any language have more than one meaning and if the reader applies the wrong definition to even one word it can change the meaning of a sentence, which can change the meaning of a paragraph, which can change the meaning of a chapter, which can change the meaning of a whole book. That is what is attempted by changing the meaning of the word “parthenous” to a young woman, when it means virgin.

    When I was baptized I received the Holy Spirit to teach me all things (John 14:26 NIV) “But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.” I understand the Bible, because the Holy Spirit reveals it to me: not because of any other thing. The Holy Spirit can and will teach me about God, no matter what translation I chose. I do not depend on my own understanding until it agrees completely with the Spirit within.

    You ask how can Muslims find God and I would answer ‘The same way anyone else finds God’. It seems to happen in steps: at least it did for me.

    I had heard from others that there was a God, but I didn’t really believe it. When the subject came up, or I thought about it, I repeated those same arguments against the idea. The one that pops into my head right now is ‘If there is a God, then why does He allow war?’ Of course war is a result of man not obeying God and if God allows sin then war is a logical result of sin. In other words, war is man’s fault, not God’s.

    Anyway, when I thought about the universe and how well balanced everything is to allow life on this planet I started to consider that there might just be a God. I started to search for Him and as the Word says, (Mat 7:7&8 NIV) “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.”

    Matthew 7:7&8 applies equally to everyone. A Muslim that truthfully asks God if He is Allah will receive a truthful answer. He may not accept the answer, but God is not a liar and His Word says, “Everyone who asks receives”.

    There is also a very important step that demands one truthfully examine themselves. No one would ask God for a Savior if they didn’t realize they needed one.

    Please try to overlook my harshness. I mean no harm. I am truthful to a fault, so I do not flatter anyone and I do not wish to be flattered, so please try not to get your feelings hurt and be sure that you can not hurt mine.

    Consider everything that I have said as a question and not an answer. Iron does not sharpen iron and I cannot teach you anything. But if anyone truthfully searches for the one true God, they will find Him: He said so.

  13. Joseph Lule says:

    The bible has warned us to be careful with deceitful things.

    One which is our heart where Jeremiah 17:9 says the heart is deceitful above all things, and it is incurable; who can know it?

    And riches where Mark 4:19 and the cares of this age, And the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts about other things entering in, they choke the Word, and it becomes unfruitful.

    In the Gospels Jesus just got to tell about a parable concerning the hearing of the Word of God as stated in Matthew 13:19-22 where it says Everyone hearing the Word of the kingdom, and not understanding, then the evil one comes and catches away that which was sown in his heart. This is that sown by the roadside. And that sown on the stony places is this: the one hearing the Word, and immediately receiving it with joy, but has no root in himself, but is temporary, and tribulation, or persecution occurring because of the Word, he is at once offended. And that sown into the thorn bushes is this: the one hearing the Word, and the anxiety of this age, and the deceit of riches, choke the Word, and it becomes unfruitful. But that sown on the good ground is this: the one hearing the Word, and understanding it, who indeed bears and yields fruit, one truly a hundredfold, and one sixty, and one thirty.

    Jesus says that the seed sown into the thorn bushes is this: the one hearing the Word, and the anxiety of this age, and the deceit of riches, choke the Word, and it becomes unfruitful.

    Please note that anxiety relates to Luke 12; 28-31 where Jesus said But if God so dresses the grass, which today is in the field and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, how much rather you, little-faiths? And you, do not seek what you shall eat, or what you shall drink, and stop being in anxiety. For all the nations of the world seek after these things, and your Father knows that you need these things. But seek the kingdom of God and all these things will be added to you.

    This anxiety is by those who do not have anything and are seeking the things of the world are worried and thereby choke the Word.

    Also note that those who already have the riches are deceived by it that they can seek God and Mammon but you will realize that Jesus said In Luke 16:13 that No servant is able to serve two lords; for either he will hate the one, and he will love the other; or he will cling to one, and he will despise the other. You are unable to serve God and mammon.

    Basically what Jesus is saying is that as stated in Matthew 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal. But treasure up for you treasures in Heaven, where neither moth nor rust cause to perish, and where thieves do not dig through and steal.

    Which is added by John by saying do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him, because all that which is in the world: the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

    The love of the Father is in Him who lives in Christ. In John 14:21 Jesus said He that has My commandments and keeps them, it is that one who loves Me; and the one that loves Me shall be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and will reveal Myself to him.

    Jesus is saying Seek first the Kingdom of God and righteousness and all these things shall be added to you. These things are the needs of man which the Lord is saying that I know that you need these things but man must live by the word of God and these needs shall be taken care of by the Lord for He knows what we need.

    We are called to esteem God above all things and to do things to the glory of God. Riches are but a snare that drives man away from God. God knows that you need these things so He asking please do not seek riches but seek the Lord for in Him there are all things.

    The desire of God is for man to seek Him and to go after Him diligently seeking Him. Not desiring to be rich but desiring to know Him.

    I rightly agree with you as JESUS said you have to Hate one and Love another, and also i am praying that the Lord helps me to hate money and continue to seek and Love Him and be not be deceived by it to take the place of God.

  14. Isweem - Sound Scientist says:

    I hate money sooooo much! im a christian and i hated money before i even knew that God was ok with it. But now im glad to know that my hate for money is an exact result of my love for God.

    Matthew 6:24 -No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.

  15. astudent says:

    Isweem – Sound Scientist,

    That is about as well said as it could be.

    I must also say that my hate for money is an exact result of my love for God.

    Well, perhaps my hate of money is the result of God’s love for me, because if He had not taught me about money, I would be like the world and I would love money.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: