SIN HAS A PURPOSE!

If you have confused yourself, or allowed someone to confuse you, with the idea that it is only God that determines whether, or not one is saved, then I do not think that you can understand that sin does, indeed, have a purpose.

Sin is both a noun and a verb. Sin is the opposite of righteousness. If righteousness is one choice and we can choose not to do righteous acts, then the other choice would have to be the opposite and it is called sin.

If you believe that it is only God that chooses those who will be saved, then even Jesus had/has no purpose. Why would anyone have to suffer the punishment for sin, if God were going to choose the saved, without considering sin? And if God did consider sin, then, because all humans sin, no one could be saved. So, then sin would have no purpose and all the wrong done in this world was for nothing!

(Isa 59:1&2 NIV) “Surely the arm of the LORD is not too short to save, nor his ear too dull to hear. But your iniquities have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear.” You can see that sin is what separates us from God and we all sin. The Gospel, or good news is that all, who want to be saved, can be saved, through Jesus Christ.

Mat 7:78 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.” That is good news to all sinners and it could not be true, if salvation was only for those that God would choose.

If it is only God that chooses then what purpose is the Bible? It would only confuse both the lost and the saved. Who would need to know anything about God, if it were only God that chose and man could neither help, nor hinder Him with His choice!

I, for one, cannot see any purpose in “anything”, without free will. I know, for a fact that I am free to sin, because I have, and though I do not want too, I still sin. I believe that God lets me sin, so that I do not forget my need of a Savior. It is not enough for me to remember Jesus only during communion.

So, you are probably thinking ‘Well, when are you going to tell me what is the purpose of sin?’ Right now. Sin is proof we have free will. If there were no free will, there would be no sin. Sin is to disobey God and everyone disobeys God.

The purpose of sin is, SIN PROVES GOD CORRECT, because the result of sin always hurts others as well as the sinner and if we do not sin then no one is hurt. It proves God’s way is right.

Another purpose of sin is SIN SEPERATES THOSE FROM GOD WHO DO NOT WANT TO BE WITH HIM. It also separates those who will not do to others, as they would have others do to them, from the saved. We will be at peace in Heaven, because everyone will do to others as they want others to do to them and there will no longer be any sin. There would be no longer any purpose in it.

7 Responses to SIN HAS A PURPOSE!

  1. Viola says:

    “The purpose of sin is, SIN PROVES GOD CORRECT, because the result of sin always hurts others as well as the sinner and if we do not sin then no one is hurt. It proves God’s way is right.”

    I wonder if this is correct. I am a girl and enjoy masturbating. It is a beautiful way to connect with my body and it gives me pleasure. I do not see at all how this hurts others or myself, yet the bible considers it a sin…Why?

  2. astudent says:

    Viola,

    Now that is a hard question and therefore a good one.

    First, I must qualify my answer. You did not indicate that you were Christian. If you are not then you will neither understand nor accept my answer. I am going to answer you as though you are a Christian, as I hope you are.

    God created everything, so God created sex and it is good. However, He created marriage between a man and a woman as a symbol/illustration of what our relationship between Him and every person should be.

    Sex is when a man inters into a woman and becomes one with her (Matthew 19:4&5). Love is the most important part of having sex. Sex without love is only lust and not what God would have.

    God wants to become one with all men and women, but He does not want unfaithful followers. Those who would unite with other gods. Other Gods include anything that is more important to the individual, such as money, food, sex, etc.

    To have sex with someone other than your spouse is to be unfaithful. If one has sex before marriage, then they have already been unfaithful to the one they marry.

    Masturbation is always having sex with someone. That someone is the illusion in one’s own mind. Therefore, it can be seen that masturbation does indeed hurt someone: the most loving being in the universe at that.

    Masturbation even hurts the person that engages in it. It is sex without love and one has to harden their heart in order to continue. Masturbation is always done in private at first, because it is a shameful act. If it were not shameful, it would not be hidden. That is not to say that one could not harden their heart to the point that all shame was suppressed.

    To say that masturbation is a beautiful way to connect with your own body is not exactly true in my opinion. It is a way to temporary pleasure and it is the same way a drunk views the next drink. Because one enjoys something doesn’t make it right and pure. That way of thinking would make anything beautiful.

    It is said that we are what we eat, but the real truth is we are what we think. If one continues to masturbate, they become more and more accustom to sex without love and it ruins the real thing.

    So, masturbation does indeed hurt both God and the person that engages in it.

  3. Tony says:

    Hi astudent,

    You said ‘Masturbation is always having sex with someone. That someone is the illusion in one’s own mind.’

    Could I ask a Bible reference for masturbation? Simple because there are other godly Christians who have come to different conclusions as you (consider: http://site.themarriagebed.com/front-page).

    Also, what if there is no illusion in your mind?

    Finally, you said ‘Masturbation is always done in private at first, because it is a shameful act.’ What if it is also done in private? Because it is a private act, and not a shameful act? Consider marriage – that will always be done in private for a Christian, so is it shameful?

    I know you are of strong opinion and I’m not sure, but do you consider those who disagree with your opinion from Scripture also Christ followers?

    I’ve visited here over the years, I am very wary of those who say things like ‘if you’re a calvinist, you’re not a Christ follower’. I’m not sure if that is you, but I think that’s a dangerous path to tread.

  4. Tony says:

    Sorry I should proof read, this paragraph is meant to read:

    Finally, you said ‘Masturbation is always done in private at first, because it is a shameful act.’ What if it is done in private because it is a private act, and not a shameful act? Consider sex in marriage – that will always be done in private for Christians, so is it shameful?

  5. astudent says:

    Tony,

    Thanks for the comment and thanks for not giving up on me.

    Yes, you can and may, ask for a Bible reference for masturbation.

    Mat 5:28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
    Mat 15:19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.

    It is in your heart that one masturbates and a man cannot masturbate without a mental picture of a woman. I cannot speak for women, but I don’t think it would be any different for them.

    It was not my intention to become involved with a discussion about masturbation and I am not comfortable with it, but I will try.

    If there is no illusion in your mind, there can be no masturbation. Test me on that. Think about God and give it a go. To close to home? Try thinking about a steak, vacation, anything. If you find such a thought, please share it, as most men, including myself, have sexual thoughts that tempt one to masturbate.

    Tony, your comparison of sexual acts between married couples and masturbation is like comparing apples to oranges. One is shameful and hidden; the other is personal and hidden. Would you masturbate in public and if you did would you feel shame? If someone were to sneak up to your window and watch you and your wife make love, would you be ashamed, or angry?

    As for Calvinism, what would your definition of “Gospel” be? If it is only God that chooses those who will be saved, then where is the “Good News” for the unsaved?

  6. Jlobeck says:

    Libertarian or compatibilist definition of free will? Do you define free will as the ability to choose what is wrong? By that definition does the Christian God have free will since he “cannot go against himself” or do wrong… James 1:13. Can God create beings with abilities He does not have? You’re on the path… not quite there yet. Keep searching ‘student’. Don’t hardline quite so much 🙂

  7. astudent says:

    Jlobeck,

    I define “free will” as the ability to choose to sin or not to sin. If one would say that man has no free will and yet he sins, then one would have to blame God for all sin, because the man would have had no choice in the matter and yet someone is to blame, because sin is wrong and man does sin.

    It is apparent that man sins and someone is at fault. Would you blame God for your sins? You know that you did and you still do sin. (1 John 1:8 NIV) If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

    The verse that you chose to prove your point does not say, “cannot go against Himself”. Rather it says He cannot be tempted by evil. (James 1:13 NIV) “When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;” You see that God does not make anyone sin. He doesn’t even tempt anyone.

    Truth, as I see it, is God will not sin. If one says that God is all powerful and can do anything, then one cannot say there is something that He cannot do! There is a big difference between not doing something and cannot do something.

    To answer your other question, “Yes, God can do anything, so He certainly could create beings with abilities that He does not have”. The next question is ‘Why would He?’ If God is perfect and I think that we would all agree to that, then any ability that God does not have would be an ability to do something imperfect!

    Well, then there is man.

    I do agree with you when you say that I am on the path, but not quite there yet. You speak as though you have been there. If you were still there, you would have said “here”, instead of there. Anyway, since I am speaking to someone that has been there, just where is there? ha-ha

    By the way, what do you mean when you say compatibilist? I do not know, and it is not in the dictionary.

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