WOULD I BAKE A CAKE FOR A GAY WEDDING?

If you read much of what I write, you know that I seldom have the standard answer.

My answer is “yes” if I owned a bakery, I would bake a cake for a gay wedding.

Gay people are just sinners. They have their own favorite sin and it is one that holds no interest for a normal human, but it is a sexual sin and most men commit sexual sins much of the time.

If one takes the position that they will not serve others, because of their sins, then they have only one possible customer and he is sitting at the right hand of God, so they really have no customers at all.

If you live in the United States, you have probably heard the saying, “Friends don’t let friends drive drunk”. That is an accurate statement, because if you try to stop a drunk from driving, he will not be your friend. He may have been your friend, and he may well be your friend tomorrow, but not when you try to stop him from doing what he wants to do.

We, as a rule, do not listen to our enemies and to refuse to serve a sinner, because he or she is a sinner, makes that person an enemy. If you want the other person to listen to our message, then do not antagonize them. It would be better if other Christians think that you approve of their sin, than to alienate someone, so that they will not listen to the most important message of their life.

You know, in your own mind, that you would not approve of any sin. It is not necessary to show others what is in your mind, especially by alienating another person. The only opinion of ones holiness is the opinion of God and He already knows your mind.

A persons sins are his or her own sins. Serving the sinner does not put a stamp of approval on the person, or their sins. All of mankind are sinners, it is just that most people try to hide their sins (It makes it easier to sin, if the person that is sinned against doesn’t expect it).

The bottom line is that we as Christians are supposed to act as Jesus would. Jesus came to serve sinners. To refuse to serve a sinner, because you believe that others might think that you are approving of their sin, is certainly not emulating Jesus.

The only time that Jesus stopped anyone from sinning is when he threw the money changers out of the Temple. He did this because they were defiling the Temple.

If a practicing homosexual is among the saved, they should be handed over to Satan, so their sinful nature may be destroyed, and their spirit will be saved on the day of the Lord. (1 Corn 5:1-5) That is better for the person, as well as better for the Church.

11 Responses to WOULD I BAKE A CAKE FOR A GAY WEDDING?

  1. jasonlsparks says:

    I would bake them a cake for any other occasion other than a wedding.

  2. astudent says:

    jasonlsparks,

    So, you would alienate them! Why!

    It is not possible for them to be married in God’s eyes. Gen 2:24 (NIV) “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.”

    I think that you agree, that it is not possible for them to be joined in our eyes either, no matter what they think in their own minds.

    I do not think it right to pick and choose which sin, or sins, are more important than others. All sins are sins against God. The gay people that want to believe that they are married have not sinned against me, but against God. They have done nothing against me. I choose (Pretty easy, for a straight man) not to indulge in their type of sin, but I cannot condemn them for sin of any kind. I am also a sinner and it is not right for someone that sins to condemn others for their sins.

    By the way, you will not be in the bakery business very long if you refuse any request from a gay person. You will be fined out of business.

    The Law has decided to control our thoughts and words. There was no physical harm done to the two gay people and there was no monetary harm done to them. The only harm was to their feelings and the Law has decided one cannot hurt the feelings of a gay person! Christians do not have the same form of justice, but then this life is not supposed to be fair.

  3. astudent says:

    donovantanyf,

    Thanks for considering it worthy to be reblogged.

    It is encouraging when I see young people interested in the Word.

  4. jasonlsparks says:

    I would not be alienating them, I simply would not violate my own belief for something that is an abomination to God.

  5. jasonlsparks says:

    And on the subject of whether or not I would be in business long or not, the state of Missouri protects people like me from lawsuits such as that.

  6. astudent says:

    jasonlsparks,

    Well, it could be argued, but I am pretty sure that you would alienate them.

    I don’t quite understand how you would be violating any of your beliefs by baking a cake for a gay marriage? It is not your sin. Actually, the gay people would probably choose your business, because you are a believing Christian. That is the kind of thing that many of them would do. That would make them your enemy and you are commanded to love your enemies.

    Mat 5:43&44 (NIV) “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

    You are commanded, by Jesus, not by me, to love gay people. Surely, you would treat them as good as you would treat any customer, and if you obeyed Jesus, from your heart, you would even treat them better than a regular customer.

    As for your faith in your state government
    Psa_118:8 (NIV) It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man.
    Psa_118:9 (NIV) It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in princes.
    Psa_146:3 (NIV) Do not put your trust in princes, in mortal men, who cannot save.
    Pro_3:5 (NIV) Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;

    You may have to face a gay judge and the case may go on to the Supreme Court. We really cannot predict what will happen.

    The bottom line is, your beliefs should come from Jesus and I am sure that Jesus would obey the same command that he gave all of us (Mat 5:43&44). Jesus went so far as to allow his enemies to murder him and he did so that gay people might be saved, as well as straight people. If Jesus would allow himself to be nailed to a cross, I am quite sure that he would bake a cake for them, no matter what the cake was for.

    That is not to say that any sinner that will not repent and be baptized, will be saved: no matter what their sins are. The gay person that repents and really tries to abstain from gay sex, has a place right by my side and I for one am grateful for a God that would save us both. The person that stands beside the gay person is also a saved sinner and that would be me. I would be glad to call him or her a brother, sister, or mother (Mat 12:50).

    I hope that I have not alienated you, but I probably have. Nevertheless, sometimes one must be forceful in order to say what should be said.

    I do apologize and trust that, as a Christian, you will forgive me.

    By the way, would you bake a wedding cake for someone that is divorced? (Mal 2:14-16)

  7. creationwitness says:

    astudent,

    I accept the same understanding as you have as I have in the past. I have never baked a cake for a gay wedding, but rather had conversation with one that questioned if what he was doing was a sin. I recently posted on another blog concerning this issue in much the same way, but added this quote too:

    “I was once asked why I don’t participate in anti-war demonstrations. I said that I will never do that, but as soon as you have a pro-peace rally, I’ll be there.”

    ― Mother Teresa

    I believe this is very insightful of her. She wasn’t saying don’t bake the cake, but rather don’t partake in the actual sin itself. Partaking in the anti-war demonstration is fighting evil with evil. Using evil to fight against evil will not be successful.

    If Christians were to organize pro-heterosexual marriages with all of the advantages, the pubic may take a different stance regarding us.

    The only thing to add to this is that it is a sad thing when sin is made public and people begin to accept it as no sin. Many of our sins including war and abortion have had the same such publicity.

  8. astudent says:

    creationwitness,

    You certainly are correct when you say sin is made public and people begin to accept it as no sin. It is even bragged about!

    It seems to me that we spend too much time thinking about the sins of others. The entire world commits sin: especially those that do not recognize God. We all sinned and we (Christians) are overjoyed that God has given us a way that frees us from the punishment of that sin, but then we forget that we are sinners and we condemn those who have yet to turn from their evil ways.

    To condemn others for the same errors that we are guilty of shows no compassion for the lost. How ungrateful we show ourselves to be.

    We are not held responsible for the sins of others, but just as you did, we must tell others that they sin and are in need of a Savior. The choice is theirs and only they can make that choice.

    I also think that we should not try to force our understanding on others. I do not want their views forced on me, and to obey the second greatest command, I try not to force my views on others. That is not to say that I do not defend my views.

  9. joshual1177 says:

    Here’s a question to consider. If you are on the not baking them a cake side of the fence, would you bake them a cake if you didn’t own a business and gave it to them for free as a gift?

    Also how many Heterosexual couples has the business baked wedding cakes for who engaged in premarital sex? There’s no difference when you look at from that standpoint. I, personally, wouldn’t attend the ceremony, but I could still love them.

  10. astudent says:

    joshual1177,

    That is a good thought. The kind of thought we should strive to have.
    We have to be careful that we do not condemn, but at the same time, they should know that God is not pleased with homosexuality.

    1Cor_6:9 (NIV) Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders

    Sometimes we must walk a fine line. We must do to others as we would have them do to us. To tell someone who is gay that it is wrong usually does offend them, and no one wants to be offended. However, it is better to offend, than not to warn. We are the watchman for the house of Israel. (Ezek 3:17-21)

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